[Vince]

OpenSUSE with K3B did it again, they proved their usability. I burnt a DVD with some drivers on ready to install Windows 7, however completely ignoring the fact that media doesn't support it, the drive doesn't support it and I didn't select it, it decided to be quick and burn my DVDs at the speed of:

24x

Well it's the first time this drive has ever burnt that fast and it was really noisy as it was writing the DVD. Needless to say, the copy it burnt will not read in any of my computers, not even the OpenSUSE Install it was written on, it verified fine though! So not only is the verification broken, the application is broken and it could have possibly damaged the hardware, so far the DVD burner seems to be working properly however I don't think many writes like that would have done it too good. Anyway it's a good job I checked the DVD It wrote because I know not to trust Linux and quite rightly so since it was a coaster, regardless of the fact it verified fine. 


There's nothing wrong with the burner, I've used it on Windows without it doing any of that. 

[Captain William T. Riker]

Vince, on 08 February 2010 - 09:37 AM, said:

OpenSUSE with K3B did it again, they proved their usability. I burnt a DVD with some drivers on ready to install Windows 7, however completely ignoring the fact that media doesn't support it, the drive doesn't support it and I didn't select it, it decided to be quick and burn my DVDs at the speed of:

24x

Well it's the first time this drive has ever burnt that fast and it was really noisy as it was writing the DVD. Needless to say, the copy it burnt will not read in any of my computers, not even the OpenSUSE Install it was written on, it verified fine though! So not only is the verification broken, the application is broken and it could have possibly damaged the hardware, so far the DVD burner seems to be working properly however I don't think many writes like that would have done it too good. Anyway it's a good job I checked the DVD It wrote because I know not to trust Linux and quite rightly so since it was a coaster, regardless of the fact it verified fine.


There's nothing wrong with the burner, I've used it on Windows without it doing any of that.

My burner goes up to 52x, but I never burn at that speed. Always 16x or lower.

The above is why I'm extremely hesitant to use burning software in Linux.

On a foot note, to better explain my paranoia:

My friend related to me a story he had with a particularly troubled burner. He and his bud were repairing a PC and the drive was reading the disc with them just bullshitting and waiting for it to finish.

Well, as they were talking, the drive began to get -really- noisy. Like jet engine take off noisy. So they move to the side, and just as they did, the CD literally flew out of the drive and embedded itself half way into the wall. Had they not moved out of the way, one of them would have gone to the hospital.

So, Vince, when I read your post, that story comes to my head.

[Vince]

Quote

My burner goes up to 52x

Mine does for CDs, but not DVDs.

Quote

So, Vince, when I read your post, that story comes to my head.

Yep, I went out the room to get a drink whilst it was burning so if that did happen it would have been fine. Though I Would have been pissed that a 2 month old LG drive was fucked.

[Kapitan.Y.A]

Odd, I've never had that happen. But for the longest time I couldn't burn cds or DVDs above 8X. K3b is my favorite burning software, though, I bet it wasn't k3b but cdrecord or something it relys on.

Although I do have an older machine (192mb of ram, 600mhz cpu) that runs XP, and its cdrom drive doesn't slow down the disk before ejecting, in fact it speeds it up.The tray will open and the disk spinning at 5 million miles an hour keeps spinning for like 7 seconds....

[Tristam]

I never used Linux for any kind of burning.

One of the things they did do right though, was cd RIPPING.

Sound Juicer was one of the best programs, hands down, I've ever come across for ripping music.

[FBM]

Sai_Wolf, on 08 February 2010 - 04:07 PM, said:

My burner goes up to 52x, but I never burn at that speed. Always 16x or lower.

The above is why I'm extremely hesitant to use burning software in Linux.

On a foot note, to better explain my paranoia:

My friend related to me a story he had with a particularly troubled burner. He and his bud were repairing a PC and the drive was reading the disc with them just bullshitting and waiting for it to finish.

Well, as they were talking, the drive began to get -really- noisy. Like jet engine take off noisy. So they move to the side, and just as they did, the CD literally flew out of the drive and embedded itself half way into the wall. Had they not moved out of the way, one of them would have gone to the hospital.

So, Vince, when I read your post, that story comes to my head.

This story is very likely to be a lie, because a disc (and I mean any type of disc, not just CDs), no matter how fast it rotates, will never get any inertia which could make it move. It will only gather "rotating inertia".
Unless, of course, it rotates so fast that the centrifugal force makes it burst into pieces.

[icehuck]

FBM, on 08 February 2010 - 12:20 PM, said:

This story is very likely to be a lie, because a disc (and I mean any type of disc, not just CDs), no matter how fast it rotates, will never get any inertia which could make it move. It will only gather "rotating inertia".
Unless, of course, it rotates so fast that the centrifugal force makes it burst into pieces.

Even when they burst into pieces they don't have enough power fly outside of the drive and embed into a wall. Sounds like a shitty movie about an alien drug dealer, "I come in piece."

[Vince]

Yeah judging by what I saw on Myth busters it ain't going to happen. But anyway the drive is fine, I got Windows 7 installed using it anyway.

[Captain William T. Riker]

FBM, on 08 February 2010 - 12:20 PM, said:

This story is very likely to be a lie, because a disc (and I mean any type of disc, not just CDs), no matter how fast it rotates, will never get any inertia which could make it move. It will only gather "rotating inertia".
Unless, of course, it rotates so fast that the centrifugal force makes it burst into pieces.

I only communicate what I was told.

[optimize me]

In 4 years of Linux use, I can't report any real success at burning CDs or DVDs. There's always some kind of fuck up.

In Ubuntu on my laptop, I have to kill the burning application (k3b) and restart X so I can do more than one disc at a time.

[timestandstill]

My experience with burning discs in Linux has been pretty hit or miss. I've had them work out great and I've had them not work at all.

Rarely have a problem in Windows, but I guess that is to be expected.

[Neken]

for your drivers, you really should just find the ethernet drivers for windows 7 and let windows update to the rest for you, it's way simpler, faster, and you won't have to mess arounds with dvds

[timestandstill]

Neken, on 08 February 2010 - 05:25 PM, said:

for your drivers, you really should just find the ethernet drivers for windows 7 and let windows update to the rest for you, it's way simpler, faster, and you won't have to mess arounds with dvds

Hell, I didn't have to worry about ethernet drivers. Worked immediately.

[Vince]

I decided to do that, and I didn't need ethernet drivers since the Windows ones worked and they upgraded to the realtek ones when the system was installed. I did install the ATi drivers though.

[Twitch6000]

Well I am not sure if this is your case,but the discs I have say to only burn it x4 speed. I have tried 16 and it never works. I try x4 and it does fine.

[FBM]

Sai_Wolf, on 08 February 2010 - 08:49 PM, said:

I only communicate what I was told.

Of course, the aim of my post was to explain to you why the story you were told was likely a lie, not to insinuate you are the one lying.

Even though, I'm not telling it is a lie, just it is likely a lie, because of the physics involved.

[Jones]

I've never seen a disc fly across the room, but have had disks rupture during high speed reads, no fun (since you have to toss the drive after that).

But for burns I usually do 8X.

[Neken]

timestandstill, on 08 February 2010 - 05:28 PM, said:

Hell, I didn't have to worry about ethernet drivers. Worked immediately.

most of the time it's wireless drivers that aren't found.

but yeah, you only need to install your graphics card drivers.

and it's nice, you don't have to restart to update your graphics card drivers.

[Vince]

Quote

and it's nice, you don't have to restart to update your graphics card drivers.

That is true, but I do anyway. 

[Darin]

I've never had any problems with burning cds on Slackware, I have never tried it on OpenSuse, though. The only problem I have had with k3b is ripping cds. It was ripping the cds incorrectly and barely playing the music at all. I tried ripit, which is a command-line app written in perl. Once I did that, it had no problems ripping it and it sounded excellent.